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Predator 212 vs Predator 224

Identical Stage 1 build · only the displacement changes
Peak horsepower
10.26 hp @ 5500
Peak torque
10.30 lb-ft @ 5000
Rev ceiling
5700 rpm
Main jet
42

Engine output on a stand — there is no drivetrain and no chassis in these numbers, which is the same basis Harbor Freight rates the engine on. Simulated at 800 ft and 75°F; thinner air makes less power and wants less fuel, so both the horsepower and the jet move with them. Governor removed. Compression 9.06:1.

Billet flywheel and billet rod are not optional on this build. The stock cast flywheel is generally considered safe to about 4,500–5,000 rpm. Past that it can come apart, and it sits inches from your leg. Every ungoverned build on this site carries both parts, and the calculator will not let this page render without them.
051015202000300040005000 HP TQ RPM solid: 212dashed: 224
224
10.50 hp @ 5500
peak torque
10.54 lb-ft
main jet
42

Where each one wins

RPM212224diff
15002.422.48+0.06
20003.333.41+0.08
25004.284.38+0.10
30005.275.39+0.12
35006.336.48+0.15
40007.447.62+0.17
45008.608.81+0.20
50009.8110.04+0.23
550010.2610.50+0.24

Horsepower at each rpm. Everything except the part named is identical between the two runs.

Twelve extra cubic centimetres, same build on both. This is the cleanest way to see what displacement alone is worth on this platform.

The gain is consistent rather than dramatic, which is what more displacement usually does — it lifts the curve rather than reshaping it. Whether that is worth buying a second engine is a different question from whether it makes more power.

If you already own a 212, the money is better spent on the cam and carb pages linked below. If you are buying an engine anyway, the larger one costs little more.

The build

EnginePredator 212 Hemi (Gen 2) — 27/25mm valves · 5.5mm stems
GovernorGovernor removed (full rev range)
PistonStock flat top — Hemi OEM (ARC DJ-1285PH · .550" CH)
HeadStock Hemi head — as-cast factory
Head gasketStock HEMI — fiber .045" (ARC DJ-1310TP)
CamshaftStock cam — Hemi & Non-Hemi factory grind
Valve springs18 lb Hemi specific (OMB/GPS)
RetainersStock retainers — OEM (ARC DJ-1040)
ValvesStock valves — OEM
Rocker armsStock rocker arm — 1:1 ratio
Connecting rodARC 6256 Billet — Hemi (+.020" raises CR)
FlywheelARC 6696 Billet — Hemi Speedway (32° BTDC)
Ignition coilStock coil — factory (no rev limiter)
Carburetor22mm clone carb — GPS / OMB Stage kit carb
Air filterPod / cone filter — GPS / OMB angled filter kit
ExhaustGPS header + screw-on muffler kit
FuelPump 87 octane

The other one

EnginePredator 224cc
GovernorGovernor removed (full rev range)
PistonStock flat top — Hemi OEM (ARC DJ-1285PH · .550" CH)
HeadStock Hemi head — as-cast factory
Head gasketStock HEMI — fiber .045" (ARC DJ-1310TP)
CamshaftStock cam — Hemi & Non-Hemi factory grind
Valve springs18 lb Hemi specific (OMB/GPS)
RetainersStock retainers — OEM (ARC DJ-1040)
ValvesStock valves — OEM
Rocker armsStock rocker arm — 1:1 ratio
Connecting rodARC 6256 Billet — Hemi (+.020" raises CR)
FlywheelARC 6696 Billet — Hemi Speedway (32° BTDC)
Ignition coilStock coil — factory (no rev limiter)
Carburetor22mm clone carb — GPS / OMB Stage kit carb
Air filterPod / cone filter — GPS / OMB angled filter kit
ExhaustGPS header + screw-on muffler kit
FuelPump 87 octane
Change these numbers yourself

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